But the tense silence of pretending everything is fine is not healthy, or helpful. However, after 10 years of incredible results with the Classic THRIVE Experience, a new nutritional system is HERE!! Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. On top of this, Shanann had a doctors appointment scheduled hours after her death. My relationship with my ex-husband ended up terrible but we divorced and now we are with great other people! I like nice things and having nice experiences. The friend said she didnt think the news should be given over the phone so she could either come over right then ,which was about ten pm ,or wait till the morning she chose to wait till the morning. Why do you need film footage of that? If foreclosure on the house, marriage in trouble. thatas long as you have 2 Customers with But it's important to note, as the Wall Street Journal does, that claims in . I think I am starting to understand both sides of the fence which may have been prompted by the newly released Netflix Documentary or it may be because this case always sucked me in. So I read that Shannan was promoting her Thrive sales, and she was posting about how Chris was using the patch and he was getting up at 3 am to clean the whole house, vacuuming, mopping and everything, the user continued. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. Chris likes other people calling the shots. A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. Shanann Watts sold products for THRIVE by Le-Vel, a multi-level marketing company. She did everything for the camera and posting. One woman posted a query in September 2015. Chris Watts, the man who killed his entire family last year with his bare hands, spoke about his usage of Thrive patches and how they affected him during newly released interviews with authorities.. Watts pleaded guilty last year to killing his pregnant wife, Shanann, and their daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste.Late last year, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole . She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. In newly released interviews, Chris Watts discusses his use of Thrive patches and how they affected him. Interesting none-the-less. I wonder if she had specialized blood tests done. Answer (1 of 6): I can only speak on my own experience. Frankie only knew the sex of the child after her death. When it comes to Familicide, it is really hard to pinpoint and say there were absolutely no outward signs I do think CW appeared to be very standoffish and distant in the last videos of them on the trip. chris-watts-does-not-exist-you-have-been-fooled-b 1/5 Downloaded from uniport.edu.ng on February 25, 2023 by guest . in the future. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. Sign up forOxygen Insiderfor all the best true crime content. Except this social network is made up of a ton of people using and promoting The THRIVE Experience. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. Given that she knew and didnt post straight away about it being a boy sets the news apart from everything else she shared so freely. The reasons that many commit such brutal crimes can be caused by issues such as: a breakdown of the family relationship (this was present in the Watts case) as well as tentative, past and current issues with access and parenting of the children; money issues (they also had a bit of financial hardships), possible mental illness is another reason. Its a very tragic story She was a very showy person. R.I.P Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico . Thats what was so difficult to get out of. Shannan Watts got involved with Thrive through a friend, and in a lengthy video, the pair discussed their involvement with the company and how Thrive has . And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. Shanann wasnt the first promoter to be faced with this question. In addition to the ingredients listed above, the Thrive Ultra Patch and Black Label Patch contain satiereal saffron extract, green tea extract, 5-HTP, L-theanine, L-arginine, quercetin, guarana, yerba mate and vitamin B12. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. In that picture of CW in that dumb shirt SW had made (just her, the girls had *nothing* to do with it) and made him wear, hes showing his teeth but he does not seem happy. In fact, the entire Watts case starts because of a check well-being call. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. I think he did premeditate this, even if it was just in his mind. There isnt a loss like it. and then, joined as an independent representative for 'Le-vel,' a company that markets 'Thrive' health and wellness products. Matt Naham Aug 20th, 2018, 11:39 am. This product is not intended to cure or prevent any disease. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. She said he had an empty head, forget everything. Its based on something called the nub theory and is based on the angle of something called the genital tubercle, which is basically a nub that will eventually develop into either male or female genitalia. Blood testing would determine the sex much earlier than ultrasound. - July 29, 2021. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. At around 2 a.m. on August 13, 2018, she dropped Shannan off at her Frederick, Colorado, home following a weekend business trip they had taken to Arizona. I think the gender reveal was the big splash for that. On June 11 . He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Since Thrive I wake up early 4ish am and feel amazing! Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. But even most narcissistic sociopaths dont strangle people. I think he was confused and didnt want to make a strong decision either way, yet wanted out of his marriage and family life. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. I still can't believe they made a movie out of . Following the couple's 2015 bankruptcy filing, Shanann began working for Le-Vel, a multi-level marking company that sells health supplements and weight loss patches under the brand Thrive. I do think he has some sort of an underlying personality disorder, diagnosed or undiagnosedthis would explain a lot of his strange and undetermined behavior patterns since childhood. I . processed monthly Autoship orders! I asked Nichol if Chris used any steroids or narcotics, one investigator wrote. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . She also didn't seem to be bothered by placing her own . Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. It begins with questioning and making assumptions that Thrive was the sole reason for why Shanann was feeling sick during her pregnancy before the murders. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. But one day she starts seeing subtle changes, then more physical changes, and a more assured and arrogant Chris started to emerge, she knew the marriage was definitely in trouble before she got pregnant. Watts repeatedly talks about the murder of Shanann as this moment where he snapped because she supposedly threatened to take the kids away from him. The gender reveal party was to tell others it was a boy, I dont think she knew. Check out never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! She went to bed and was killed . It could just be a matter of Chris dealing with health issues he wanted kept private and nothing to do with the murders. But, once she started selling Thrive, her friend said she was making between $65,000 and $70,000 a year and that she had signed up approximately 200 people. It is/was a gut feeling that we all get, a sinking feeling that cant be explained or described but his withdrawal was a big clue that she should have put more stock in. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. Another in late 2017 expressed concern that she was 17 weeks pregnant andstill losing weight because of the product. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? ", [Photos: Weld County District Attorneys Office, Associated Press]. Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant, and appeared to be happily married, according to Atkinson. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? To protect him from what? Divorce and talks of separation are obviously ways to verbally and mentally distance ones self from a S/O when talking to a potential new partner but this can oftentimes be the catalyst as wellthe reason for the Familicideone has to keep up with the lie they have already told. I know Im very late on this whole case and only found out about two days ago. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. I love Chris! Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. And the arrogant Searcy testifying on the stand wanted to make perfectly clear that his company was not a pyramid, that he had gotten rich because of Prepaid Legal and that Jodi Arias who was in Prepaid Legal in no way tainted the company. It was like he was on speed.. I do not own any rights to this video. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. However. She likely had that done because there is no way to be certain of gender by ultrasound that early. Hammering away relentlessly. Regardless of all the theories as to what led Chris Watts to senselessly murder Shanann Watts and his daughters, one thing is certain: Chris Watts is a murderer, through and through. Choosing his clothes, his meals, his everything. Get an all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. I think chris felt tremendous pressure from the debt and third baby and family issues and feeling controlled and emasculated. By August, friends said Shanann Watts was worried about her marriage crumbling. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. What strikes me as most interesting is that one of the MLM accounts was set up under her oldest daughter's name. If you are taking any medication, or have any type of medical issue, consult with a doctor before using this product. She didnt make the scan so how did she know already? Phenethylamine is similar to the drug amphetamine, and may cause similar side effects, such as rapid heart rate, anxiety, or agitation, the information continued. I think you found the MLM hun. She's hyping selling product bars to her friends, and filming them while doing it. Easier said than done, of course. Now notice how quickly Prepaid Legal changed the name of their company after Travis Alexander was butchered. If Thrive promotion had to take a back seat during Shananns pregnancy, then their finances which were hanging by a thread were about to drop through the floor. As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. Address. Im sure everyone here already knows this now but thought Id still add it. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. I know this is an old comment but I found out at 10 weeks with both my pregnancies that I was having a girl. According to Watts confessions, he told Shanann on the morning of the murders that he wanted a divorce separation. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. Irrespective of Shananns strategy to use her pregnancy as a vehicle to promote Thrive, theres also the reality. 2023byTango Publishing Corporation All Rights Reserved. But seeing how fat he was im [sic] some pictures to how muscular he ended up being combined with his different new attitude and personality change, it would make sense that he was taking steroids, they alleged. REFER 2 AND YOUR THRIVE PRODUCTS ARE Watts claimed that he snapped and strangled his wife . Chris Watts also used Thrive patches, which some people like his mistress, Nichol Kessinger attributed to his drastic weight loss in the time leading up to the Watts family murders. Is it safe to use while pregnant or could it actually harm the growing fetus? So who is paying for his defense? I agree with your points. (@ProctorStamp) October 23, 2020, RELATED: Everything To Know About Chris Watts's Rumored Affair With Trent Bolte, The Man He Met Online. The footage shows Kessinger, who was having an affair with Watts prior to the murders, detailing their relationship in a 3 . Shed personally witnessed Shanann not feeling well during their trip. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. You can see a photo of Chris Watts wearing multiple patches at once here. Menu. Not suitable for individuals under 18 years of age. Atkinson had reason to be concerned on Monday morning. Pauline the Watts case is both a PR bonanza and a PR catastrophe for Le-Vel. by Level a company that makes a sports drink called Thrive. Follow her on Instagram and keep up with her zingers on Twitter. So evidently she has been advised, and has been advised not to use certain products after all. She could have at least made 1 or 2 from August 1 10 you would think. Sofia Mendela. It lends no pertinent information useful for anyone and its just based around, yet again, more judgment on Shanann. People divorce and move on with their lives. Okay so it was their idea to keep the health information confidential, and they got no legal advice from a multi-million dollar company associated with their client, with massive vested interests riding on the outcome of this case. And I do wonder if she lied at times about her lupus/infertility/knowing the sex of her baby. ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. But was it really just certain products, or was she told, in lieu of her lupus, better be safe than sorry and stay away from Thrive completely in order to insure a healthy pregnancy? Im sorry I dont have the friends name as I didnt know I would be responding to a post and Ive read so much in the last two days to even begin to know where to look again other than googling who were the two friends that were to give the gender reveal party?. Totally depressed, unable to eat or sleep and wondering how she was going to make it on her own. Watts financial situation is dire, but Le-Vels isnt. I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. It paints Watts less a coward than as someone who was bullied into towing a line, until things got desperate. That is never a good sign. I personally would not have gone on that AZ trip knowing there is something wrong unless we had come to an impasse and had agreed to disagree or agreed to either separate or try and see how things go (which is what the speculation and her texts show). She posted a video of herself on social media announcing the pregnancy to her husband. If Shanann had chosen to have a third child as a genius way to stand out among all the other promotors, finding out she couldnt publicly endorse the product without getting herself [and possibly the company] into trouble would have been a huge blow. shanann watts first marriage shanann watts first marriage (No Ratings Yet) . She and her daughters are victims. Javascript must be enabled to use this site. Shanann Watts and her daughters appear to have been killed at their house in Frederick, Colorado, a town of about 8,600 people some 30 miles north of Denver, prosecutors have said. The content produced by YourTango is for informational and educational purposes only. You refer Customers and others who also want to get paid as Promoterspeople start telling people and your team begins to grow like a social network. It begins with questioning and making assumptions that Thrive was the sole reason for why Shanann was feeling sick during her pregnancy before the murders. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. This article is absolutely ridiculous and serves no purpose whatsoever. According to the creators, 'Cocomelon' is based more on the creator's family than on the Watts family. While some of the ingredients are basic vitamins and minerals, others like PEA (Phenethylamine), are a little suspicious. And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. But as you say, its significant if she knew and wasnt disclosing on social media. I do remember him mentioning to me when he first tried to introduce me to Thrive,that you needed one patch a day , and when he would hang out with me, he always wore two always wore two, Kessinger said, adding that he lost 13 pounds in 5 weeks., He, like, didnt need to sleep, Kessinger continued. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. She told police he typically wore the patches on his left and right bicep and tricep area and on his lower back - something the product's makers might even describe as overkill, as they recommendwearing only one patch a day. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. Like a mercy killing. Documentsreleased by the Weld County District Attorney's Office days after Watts was sentenced to life for smothering daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before strangling Shanann reveal just how into Thrive the couple had become. The friend had the results in an envelope from the doctors office. Cut to exactly two months after the murders: On October 12th, Watts attorneys filed a special motion to keep health information confidential. [ LEARN MORE ]. >>>Firstly because he was having an affair, and secondly because he murdered her. 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