My background comes from the military sniper community where our gear was never the best. How hard would it be to add a 223wssm to the mix. It packs a serious punch with high ballistics as well. Without a muzzle brake or suppressor, the .338 Lapua Magnum offers a challenging recoil experience. However, the majority of builds will be designed for the bolt action system. Until now, bolt action rifles only. Projectile manufacturers are even still making their high-end rounds in .243. spitting a 100-gr. Posted: 10/1/2007 3:10:34 PM EST. They have 1 particular cartridge thats something of a hot-shot for flat shooting, long distance devastation; the Weatherby .30-378. Overall Practicality: I love this caliber for AR-15 shooters who want to take their target shooting to the next level. Barnes, Hornady, Federal, and Berger all make loads ranging from $0.60-$1.30 per round. However, in the 1000-yard game, many different calibers can win. Recoil Condition: A line can be drawn in the sand between the .30 cal class projectiles and the .338 and larger. But this list is comprehensive enough to cover the most popular and best-performing rounds that are regularly used by shooters across most long-range disciplines. Below is a chart indicating the three best flat-shooting cartridges and their muzzle velocity, drop, energy levels, and felt recoil. You can compare these numbers with your favorite cartridge using Backfires own table of flat shooting cartridges and you will see that the numbers indicated are in the absolute upper tiers. Often theyre inflated. Thanks Muzzle: 4,029 ft-lbs. Full Disclosure Here. Of course, the .270 Win was developed in 1925 when 1000 yard shots were effectively unheard of. I have used it also in a Ruger #1 with a 26 barrel and thoroughly enjoyed the distance it affords me. These cartridges all drop less than 255 at 1,000 yards. That does not appeal to my simplified physics understanding of the subject. The .308 Winchester round shoots pretty flat out to 200 yards when it starts to drop. Digging Into the Numbers Drop at 500 Yards (200-yard zero): 37.3 inches Recoil: ~16 ft.-lbs. As more and more interest in the Long Range community, one thing has become apparent. My point is, I would sacrifice picking that absolute top-performing round because it most likely will cost you resources that could be used on training or trigger time. To this day, the .300WM is still a very popular choice amongst Long Range hunters and military snipers. I was particularly blown away by the range of the 6.5 Grendel. Different shooters will all have different calibers that are better suited for their specific goal or mission. For hunters, the retained energy, MV, and increased projectile expansion technology, the 6.5CM makes for a great terminally performing round for medium and even large games. Do you intend to run the same caliber across bolt and semi systems? Low B.C. For the average shooter looking to get into Long Range shooting, turn away and run to the smaller guys. And here they are: Flattest at 300 yards 240 Wby. The 6.5 will be cheaper to shoot and is pretty decent in the wind from a 6.5-284 or 6.5-06. What a cool story herethe Norma Magnum comes to us as an improvement on the Lapua Magnum. History: The .300 Winchester Magnum was developed in 1963 by Winchester itself. 270 and 30-06 carry enough power out to 700 yards, 7mm pulls a bit further, and 300 win mag pulls a bit further still. What is a flat gun? Read More Here. Barrel twist rates spin the bullet out of the muzzle in a spiral much akin to a quarterback throwing a football. bullet twice that far. As you can see, one of our gold standard flat-shooting cartridges (.270 Winchester) does not compare favorably with either of the Noslers or the Weatherby Magnum. I just want to see more of the market available to the 6CM. His favorite caliber at the time for LR competition shooting was the 6.5CM. This can get expensive so choosing my first is very important. The 123 ELD Match will be used G1: 0.506 G7: 0.255, Muzzle: 2,065 ft-lbs 500m: 943 ft-lbs 1,000m: 357 ft-lbs 1,500m: 225 ft-lbs. The advent of precision rifle competitions and the laser rangefinder has increased the publics desire to go long. The numbers are beyond impressive. The two most common BCs used are G1 and G7 below: If you notice the G7 profile has a more streamlined design. Also, I used something called G1 B.C. MV values for the .224 vary from 2,700 fps (90 grain projectiles) to 3,400 fps (60 grain projectiles). Muzzle velocity certainly makes a difference in how fast the bullet reaches the target, but it is by no means the only factor to consider. Muzzle Velocity: MV values for the .224 vary from 2,700 fps (90 grain projectiles) to 3,400 fps (60 grain projectiles). bullets at faster speeds allows the projectile to get to the target sooner, minimizing the amount of time all three forces have to affect the bullets trajectory. All three cartridges also offer ample case capacity, allowing enough powder to send bullets at drag-defying velocities. As soon as a projectile leaves the muzzle, the earths gravity instantly begins to affect the trajectory of the round. While the 6.5mm (0.264) projectile was incredibly popular in Europe, the US in the late 90s was still stuck on the .30 caliber range. This particular rifle has been shown to shoot accurately out to a mile (or 1,800 yards), but 1,000 is pretty much the limit of a 14x scope. Not to mention the custom actions and several Tier One barrel manufacturers available to create your own custom rifle. For average shooters wanting to plink at steel targets on their family farm, this round is far overkill. Remaining Energy: Muzzle: 4,186 ft-lbs. Because of the smaller powder volume and lower MVs, you can expect to see about 3,000 rounds out of your barrel. The overall purpose of the Grendel was to deliver extended accuracy and range of the .223/5.56 NATO in the same AR-15 platform. This cartridge is one of the most capable rounds I have ever shot. Ammo Availability: The biggest drawback to this cartridge is that the rounds are very expensive if bought commercially. Time of Flight (ToF) (the time it takes between squeezing a trigger and the round impacting the desired target) helps describe a scenario in which a shooter can put a round on target in a shorter amount of time, but does not describe the profound damage done to the barrel. By using the same overall magazine length dimension, the 6.5 could still use the STANAG (NATO dimension) magazine pattern. Sniper teams were already comfortable with the way a 308 performed. This round is special just like the other 6.5mm projectiles in its class. As said before, the standard rifle manufacturers have not caught up the .224 Valkyrie. This round was developed in conjunction with the AR-15 rifle in the early 60s. All 6mm projectiles are notorious for extremely fast throat erosion. It gives you that extra boost in MV to cut the wind more effectively. And that my friend required outstanding composition and masterful communication skills, not to mention the aforementioned qualifications. The RE is a culmination of MV, BC, and bullet weight. Mag. 308 has a maximum range that is relative to the type of animal you are hunting. Muzzle: 2,158 ft-lbs 500m: 1,047 ft-lbs 1,000m: 436 ft-lbs 1,500m: 222 ft-lbs. Ammo Availability: As to be expected, the 6mm Creedmoor is still a young cartridge. Cross-Platform Use: .300 PRC is strictly a bolt action caliber at the moment. You are definitely going to feel less recoil than a .308. Trust but verify. It was designed from the ground up in 2005 by an ammunition manufacturer, Lapua, to take on the 300-1,000 yard competition world. They will also fit any .308 Winchester bolt face; meaning that to obtain a 6.5CM, all you need to do is swap a barrel, making this cartridge extremely modular across bolt and gas guns. This round was developed in conjunction with the AR-15 rifle in the early 60s. The cartridge is essentially a .270 SAUM pushing bullets way too heavy with lower BC than comparable 6.5 and 7mm iterations while having only Winchester brass (the worst of the bunch) available. Cross-Platform Use: We all know that AR-10s of the past could never keep up in accuracy with a bolt gun. Danny. Shooters of these early cartridges had to be keen judges of distance, wind and trajectory to make long shots; the Sharps rifle, in larger calibers such as .50-110, was used at ranges of 1,000 yards (910 m). For someone considering PRS matches, this rifle is not for you. 500m: 1,123 ft-lbs 1,000m: 394 ft-lbs. The .243 can be a great beginner gun because of its low recoil and ammo availability. Take the .308 Winchester at 500 for comparison, The level of confidence of a first-round hit at that range is extremely high. Marine Approved is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associate Program. Very similar to the .243 Winchester. Not ideal for beginners or those who do not reload. 1,000m: 585 ft-lbs. They wanted a superior hunting and LR cartridge with similar trajectories as the .300 WM, but with less powder use and recoil. However, some people believe that the flattest shooting rifle caliber is the .308 Winchester. Kind regards. Due to its age and relevance today, the .308 has proven itself for over 65 years! Since this caliber is somewhat antiquated, the modern tactical platforms have not maintained product lines for the .243. The 6.5 has even made its way into the SOCOM sniper community. I like the RPM more, and think it just needs a 2- longer (at least) barrel to be practical. I have been considering something with more power and am willing to learn to reload. They are normalized within caliber. I am curious to see how it does for a 22 that can push any bullet weight made for it. History: What a cool story herethe Norma Magnum comes to us as an improvement on the Lapua Magnum. In order to do so, their already proven case, the 6.8 SPC (Special Purpose Cartridge) was necked down to fit a .22 caliber projectile. Comfortable price point. Muzzle Velocity: Firing the 250gr Lapua Scenar projectile, MV: 3,030 fps, Ballistic Co-Efficient: G1: 0.603 G7: 0.310. The 6.5 Grendel can be found on almost all online ammo retailers. Before we check that out, lets give a nod to the 240 Wby. He is also a passionate supporter of the Second Amendment. Written by: Mike S. Self Defense 347 Comments.WP-PrintIcon{margin-bottom:-3px}Print This Article. Since nearly all long-distance shooters today use a laser rangefinder, does it even matter which cartridges shoot the flattest? Muzzle Velocity: Using the 143 grain ELD-X, 2950 fps. Recoil Condition: Very similar to the .243 Winchester. Good video! A BC number can be represented in several different G values or standards. As much talk as there is about the .270 Winchesters ability to shoot flatly, it does not compare with these three flat-shooting options. Fifty years ago, a cartridge in America simply needed to be capable of grouping under 1.5 inches at 100 yards, shooting fast (flat) enough to enable a dead-on hold to 250 yards, and hitting hard enough to kill a deer or elk. The main issue with the latter is that there are few rifles so chambered. Even better, this caliber has taken off so fast, nearly every manufacturer is making products to accommodate it. Unless you are a military sniper, this round has almost zero practicality. Good work mate. I fear that is about all this round is targeted for. However, the majority of builds will be designed for the bolt action system. This is with a 58gr charge of Hodgen 4831 powder. I wonder if you could possibly make that load available to me, so I can compare which loads are the best? It provides whats needed for the mind to persuade itself and make a decision. Initial Thoughts: The .223 Remington offers an excellent choice for the novice weekend warrior who has limited distance range facilities. The Verdict: If you put a gun to my head, the 6.5mm Creedmoor is the best, overall, Long Range caliber. Great chart, I appreciate all your work on this. This program is designed to provide a way for websites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon. I think the 6.5 Grendel does a great job at that, however, as to be expected, the Grendel is limited in range and does not fit into the 800m+ world. How can I get all the data in a spread sheet form like you showed in your video? Death in the Long Grass: A Big Game Hunter's Adventures in the African Bush .by Peter H. Capstick, Dino Paravano, Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders (Volume 1) Paperback, The Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering, and Cooking Wild Game: Volume 1: Big Game, Horn of the Hunter: The Story of an African Safari Kindle Edition, Use Enough Gun: On Hunting Big Game Hardcover, Pheasant, Quail, Cottontail: Upland Birds and Small Game from Field to Feast Hardcover March 1, 2018, The Easy Venison Cookbook: 60 Simple Recipes for Deer, Elk, and Moose Kindle Edition. New LR shooters also often skimp on glass and what I see most often is that someone buys a cheap scope so that they can afford other goodies for their rifles. Barrel Life on the .243 can range anywhere from 1,500 rounds to 3,000. This caliber has even won military contracts from SOCOM in 2017, which I specifically took part in. Remaining Energy: Muzzle: 4,029 ft-lbs. throwing a 55-gr. 500m: 1,123 ft-lbs 1,000m: 394 ft-lbs. We all have scores of 5.56 mags laying aroundwhy not beef up that system? The Long Range community has been pushing the envelope more and more. Links or names greatly appreciated, Thanks! A .270 Win is one of the flattest shooting rifles that won't beat you silly, but it still drops over three feet at 500 yds (and don't forget wind drift; it's easily =/< to drop, always a big factor). 1,500m: 426 ft-lbs. I still shoot a .270 caliber cartridge and the same 150gr bullet, but with a 3gr powder charge boost. However, the Grendel uses the same case diameter as the 7.62x39mm so the new magazine capacity is reduced from 30 rounds to 26, and the bolt face is not interchangeable with .223/5.56 bolts. always means more wind deflection. One of the advantages of the 300 Winchester Magnum is that it can be loaded in a long-rifle action rather than a more expensive Magnum receiver. For a rifle platform, this caliber is great for building a highly modular and dynamic setup. Its use today is limited to medium to big-game hunting; bolt action only. Any cartridge that drops less than 40 inches at 500 yards or close to 200 inches at 1000 yards should be considered a flat shooting cartridge. Flattest-Shooting Cartridges Ever Backfire 641K subscribers Subscribe 4.2K 173K views 1 year ago The flattest shooting rifle cartridges are listed in this video to help shooters determine. My father has been shooting a 6.5300 wby we had made for him in the early 80s and it was only limited by bullet construction. Its just human nature to celebrate and admire the biggest, bestest, and flattest. When buying precision off-the-shelf ammo, most of the time you will not have the luxury of thumbing through several different BCs of the same caliber and ammo manufacturer. I would guess that every Walmart in the United States carries .243 Winchester. Barrel length will also change average MVs. Cross-Platform Use: You can build a .223 rifle in almost any rifle action. No, this is merely a fun exercise in ferreting out the cartridge/bullet combination that shoots the flattest at reasonable hunting distance with a bit of extreme range (1,000 yards) thrown in for spice. Always amazing to me its not even on those lists. The average price per round will be close to $2.00. While the other three rounds in this category may have an advantage in economics (300 Winchester Magnum), accuracy (338 Lapua Magnum) or range (408 CheyTac), the 50 BMG is still the king of the domain of long-range shooting. I love your work and what you share with us. The best long-range cartridges are those that are flat shooting, feature aerodynamic projectiles and have enough power to go the distance. The quicker it gets to 200 yards the less time gravity has been working on it and the less it will drop. At 600 yards, most common cartridges are running out of juice to take down larger game like Elk or Moose, though the 300 win mag/300 WSM still have a bit left in the tank. Thanks for your video and the information on your website. I think the .375 & .408 Chey Tac and 416 Barrett suffer from ammo cost and availability? Initial Thoughts: Coming from my military background, I was always reluctant to stray from the 7.62x51mm or .300 Winchester Magnum. plays a major roll in trajectory, but is second in significance to muzzle velocity. Another great benefit to the 6.5CM is that it still maintains an overall case length of a Short-Action cartridge. A good friend of mine owns a 6.5 Grendel and I must say, it is extremely accurate and pleasant to shoot. Because projectile options can range anywhere from 120gr to 230gr, projectile weights and MVs vary greatly. This concept relates exactly to how a projectile fired from a rifle achieves accurate, sustained flight. Zeroing for 100 yards or farther will change drop significantly. I do all my own reloading so don't mind something like the 6x6.8 but don't want to fuss with a ton of fireforming steps, cutting down, neck trimming etc of some wildcats. Being developed in 2017, most ammo is going to come from reloading. Including the transonic range and barrel life plus the cost of ammunition was incredibly detailed and much appreciated I couldnt stop reading the article I will hit all the way to the end without stopping. With help from the civilian market led by Winchester, the .308 took the world by storm. Off The Grid News is an independent, weekly email newsletter and website that is crammed full of practical information on living and surviving off the grid. Barrel Life on the .243 can range anywhere from 1,500 rounds to 3,000. A big selling point to the 6CM is that from its inception, and from the help of GA Precision, its use in the AR-10 platform has been immensely popular among PRS shooters. Choosing the flattest shooting rifle cartridge in each caliber category seems fair, fun, and revealing, so well do that before identifying the all time top dog. The .308 would have a slight advantage in barrel life, Im sure. The result of this work was a flat shooting and hard hitting sniper cartridge with 200 to 400 yards of extended reach compared to the 7.62mm M118. Muzzle Velocity: Using the 140gr ELD Match, 2,750 fps. Second, we are not encouraging extreme-range shooting at game. Recoil Condition: With a suppressor on the .300 Norma Magnum, the recoil still isnt all that bad. You get excellent Long Range performance, with recoil slightly less than the .308 Winchester. Great chart and thanks for what must have been an incredible amount of work. I've heard the .243 has less drop at 1000 yds than the .308 and it is also less effected by wind. The .260 Remington sparked quite the interest in the North American market of the 6.5mm cartridges. Ive posted your article on my wildlife and hunting group on FB. We all know that AR-10s of the past could never keep up in accuracy with a bolt gun. Give this round a few years for the market to catch up. Pronghorn hunters have driven the search for flatter shooting cartridges for a long time. Firing the 250gr Lapua Scenar projectile, MV: 3,030 fps. 1,500m: 306 ft-lbs. Picking six top long-range competition-cartridges was hard because various long-range disciplines apply a vast spread of demands, and many such as Palma and Service Rifle have cartridge-specific regulations. The components for reloading are also readily available. The Great Grandfather of them allthe .30-06 (thirty ought six) is the oldest cartridge on this list. After seeing such success with its flagship cartridge, Hornady wanted to take the Creedmoor to the next level. I'm thinking under 1000 yards, it is flatter shooting than even my .388 Lapua. The top-end stuff certainly has its gatekeepers. From PRS shooters to Long Range hunters, the Creedmoor has made a name for itself. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Ammo Availability: One of the biggest drawbacks of this round is that ammunition is not readily available and its expensive. The issue with the Nosler cartridges is barrel life. The .270 Winchester is a rifle cartridge developed by Winchester Repeating Arms Company in 1923 and unveiled in 1925 as a chambering for their bolt-action Model 54 to become arguably the flattest shooting cartridge of its day, only competing with the .300 Holland & Holland Magnum, also introduced in the same year.. As the .280 Remington, and the .30-06 Springfield, the .270 Winchester derived . I also love that this cartridge can be fired from standard Long-Action receivers. So having the mission flexibility to own a heavy, long-barreled bolt gun AND a lightweight, semi-auto gas gun that fires the same familiar roundis priceless. Ideally, projectiles that have a higher BC, will retain their MV over a longer range. Barrel Life: A big selling point to the Grendel is its ease on barrels. Impeccable analysis here. Slightly more than the .308 Winchester. Subscribe to my channel: http://bit.ly/RonSpomerOutdoorsSubscribeAffiliate Links:Handbook for Shooters & Reloaders: https://amzn.to/2VoQrBlOutback Trading 14. Since the beginning, the 6.5 has taken off as one of the best LR cartridges to date. For the hunting world, yes. Using 1000 yards as a distance benchmark, the 6mm CM drops 8.1 mils, and the 6.5 CM with the Hornady 147 ELD-M drops 8.7 mils. An AR-10 firing with a suppressor, the .308 will recoil slightly more than an AR-15. 6.5 projectiles hold a reputation of great BCs. If I was building a rifle on this caliber, I would expect to look at bolt-only options. In his spare time, he is an avid gun collector, hunter, and outdoorsman. All in all, pick something that will be pleasant for you to shoot over and over. With things like barrel life and ammo availability into consideration, the 6mm Creedmoor is a perfect option for the more seasoned and able LR shooter who doesnt mind reloading consistently and replacing barrels often. With low recoil and flat trajectories, the .260 is another great option for someone interested in Long Range shooting. A bullet traveling at supersonic speed pushes vapor in the air to create a cone around itself. In 2008, the cartridge was introduced not to expand upon the capabilities of the .338, but the possibilities. At a 100 yard zero sight in the 500 yard drop is 37. Those of you who reload can stretch the Valkyrie by playing with different powders, bullet seating depths, and projectile types. However, I cant jump fully on board until more bolt action options are available. Most common calibers are just fine for regular range shots under 300 yards. Barrel length will also change average MVs. However, most off-the-shelf Long Range rifle manufacturers are chambering their flagship rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor (and for less than $1,200). You can readily find these rounds online. Misjudging a 5mph crosswind as 8mph will make a 5.3 difference at 500yd with my favorite varmint load (BC0.400/MV3,400). With the 30-06, we can only overcome 12 yards of ranging error at the same range before we miss the 6 of vitals. Thats what happened with Norma. Is it the most accurate? One of the biggest drawbacks of this round is that ammunition is not readily available and its expensive. Barnes, Hornady, Federal, and Berger all make loads ranging from $0.60-$1.30 per round. Of course, be advised that components, dies, etc., will be more costly than most of the others. MSRP is a bit higher, but rifles such as these turn up used every now and then due to their specialized nature and ammunition costs, and sometimes people want to upgrade to a SAKO, Accuracy International or a Barrett. Reaching out to a target at 1,000 yards or beyond requires skill, knowledge and lots of practice to do it right. MVs vary between 2,600 fps and 2,900 fps depending on projectile grain weight. Although common sense describes how RE will affect your ballistic performance, if youre a steel or paper target shooter, RE does not play a large factor. However, for less bullet size, you can get a much better performing Long Range caliberand for a lot less money too.
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